====== Sui-San ====== ===== Part 1: The Dossier: An At-a-Glance Summary ===== ^ **Character Profile: Sui-San** ^ | **Full Name** | Sui-San | | **Species** | Eternal (Titanian Branch) | | **Place of Origin** | Titan, Moon of Saturn | | **Primary Affiliation** | Eternals of Titan | | **Known Relatives** | A'Lars (Mentor, husband, deceased) \ Thanos (son, deceased) \ Eros (Starfox, son) \ Kronos (father-in-law, deceased/cosmic entity) \ Daina (mother-in-law, deceased) \ Zuras (uncle-in-law, deceased) \ Thane (grandson) | | **Creators** | Mike Friedrich, Jim Starlin | | **First Appearance** | //Iron Man// #55 (January, 1973) | * **Core Identity:** **Sui-San was a brilliant Eternal scientist, the last survivor of the original Uranian colony on Titan, and the tragic matriarch of the Eternals of Titan, forever defined as the mother of both the heroic Avenger, Eros, and the genocidal Mad Titan, [[thanos]].** * **Key Takeaways:** * **Founding Mother of Titan:** Alongside her husband [[mentor_alars|Mentor (A'Lars)]], Sui-San was instrumental in transforming the desolate moon of Titan from the ruin of a civil war into a technological and philosophical paradise, parenting an entire new generation of Titanian Eternals. * **The Mother of Monsters and Heroes:** Her legacy is a study in duality. She gave birth to Eros ([[eros_starfox|Starfox]]), a charismatic hero embodying love and life, and Thanos, a nihilistic tyrant obsessed with death. Her immediate, horrified rejection of Thanos at birth is a pivotal moment that shaped his villainous trajectory. * **MCU Non-existence:** Sui-San is one of the most significant characters completely absent from the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The MCU fundamentally altered Thanos's origin, removing his Eternal heritage and complex family drama in favor of a simpler backstory focused on his Malthusian philosophy, a change which profoundly impacts the lore of both [[thanos]] and the [[eternals]]. ===== Part 2: Origin and Evolution ===== ==== Publication History and Creation ==== Sui-San first appeared, albeit unnamed and in flashback, in the same landmark issue that introduced her infamous son: **//Iron Man// #55**, published in January 1973. This issue, crafted by the legendary duo of writer Mike Friedrich and writer/artist Jim Starlin, served as the genesis for Marvel's entire "Cosmic" line of storytelling. While Thanos was the breakout star, the brief glimpses into his past on Titan laid the groundwork for a vast mythology. Sui-San's role was initially functional: to be the mother Thanos rejected and ultimately murdered. However, as Starlin and other writers expanded on the history of the Eternals, Titan, and Thanos's motivations, her character gained significant depth. Her full story was fleshed out in subsequent titles like //Captain Marvel//, //Silver Surfer//, and especially in the 2013 miniseries **//Thanos Rising//** by Jason Aaron and Simone Bianchi. This series provided the most detailed and brutal account of her life, her reaction to Thanos's birth, and her eventual death at his hands. She evolved from a background footnote into a key tragic figure whose actions—or reactions—were a primary catalyst for the universe's greatest threat. ==== In-Universe Origin Story ==== The origin of Sui-San is inextricably linked to the grand, tumultuous history of the Eternals, a god-like offshoot of humanity created by the cosmic [[celestials]]. Her story is a testament to survival, love, and ultimately, unimaginable horror. === Earth-616 (Prime Comic Universe) === Sui-San's story begins not with her birth, but with a civil war. Millions of years ago, on Earth, the first generation of Eternals faced a devastating schism. Their leader, Kronos, was a pacifist scientist who believed in quiet contemplation and study. His brother, Uranos, was a warlord who believed the Eternals should use their immense power to conquer the galaxy and subjugate lesser races, including humanity. This ideological conflict erupted into a brutal civil war that shattered their city of Titanos. Kronos's faction was ultimately victorious. Uranos and his followers—around one hundred Eternals—were defeated and exiled into space. They eventually settled on the planet Uranus, where they built a colony. After a fatal miscalculation involving a Kree outpost, they were forced to flee again, this time to Saturn's largest moon, Titan. It was here, on the desolate moon, that Uranos's followers established a new outpost. However, their internal strife continued, and a second civil war tore their society apart, leaving only a single survivor: **Sui-San**. Meanwhile, back on Earth, Kronos continued his cosmic experiments. One such experiment went catastrophically wrong, atomizing his physical body but transforming him into a vast, time-and-space-spanning cosmic entity. His sons, Zuras and A'Lars, were left to lead the Earth Eternals. A'Lars, much like his father, was a pacifist and a scientist, but he clashed with his brother Zuras over the Eternals' future. Believing the Eternals had grown stagnant, A'Lars argued they should be allowed to procreate. When Zuras refused and declared that only the next designated leader could procreate, A'Lars chose self-exile, leaving Earth to find his own destiny among the stars. His journey eventually led him to Titan. There, he discovered the ruins of the Uranian colony and its sole, traumatized survivor, Sui-San. The two outcasts—one exiled by choice, the other by tragedy—found solace and purpose in one another. A'Lars, now calling himself **Mentor**, and Sui-San fell in love. Using the advanced technology left behind and Mentor's own scientific genius, they set out to achieve what A'Lars had been denied on Earth: to create life. They built the underground, life-sustaining habitat of Titan and, through a combination of genetic engineering and cloning, began to repopulate the moon. They became the progenitors of a new, second generation of Titanian Eternals. For a time, it was a utopia. Titan flourished as a paradise of science, art, and philosophy, a testament to its founders' peaceful ideals. Sui-San and Mentor ruled as a benevolent king and queen, and they eventually decided to have children of their own, naturally. Their firstborn was **Eros**, a child who was everything they could have hoped for: handsome, charismatic, and full of life and love. He was the embodiment of their utopian dream. Their second child was **Thanos**. His birth shattered the peace of Titan forever. Thanos was born with the Deviant Syndrome, a genetic mutation that gave him a grotesque, oversized purple hide, a misshapen chin, and a countenance that mirrored the Eternals' monstrous cousins, the [[deviants]]. Upon first laying eyes on her newborn son, Sui-San's mind snapped. She saw not a child, but a monster carrying a "black infinity" in his eyes. In a fit of madness and primal fear, she grabbed a scalpel and tried to kill her own infant son, screaming to the medics, "He will destroy us all!" She was sedated and restrained, but the damage was done. This maternal rejection became the first and deepest wound in Thanos's psyche, planting the seeds of nihilism and hatred that would later consume him. Sui-San never truly recovered. Though she lived, she was forever haunted by what she had seen in her son's eyes. As Thanos grew, he became a gifted but morbidly curious child, ostracized for his appearance and obsessed with death. His journey into darkness culminated in his ultimate act of matricide. As a young adult, in a twisted effort to understand life and his own nature by dissecting its source, Thanos abducted Sui-San, strapped her to a table, and vivisected her, killing the very woman who gave him life. It was his final, horrifying step into becoming the Mad Titan. === Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) === In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the character of Sui-San **does not exist**. Her role, her history, and her entire relationship with Thanos have been completely excised from the canon. This represents one of the most significant and consequential adaptations from the comic book source material. The MCU's version of Thanos, as detailed in //Avengers: Infinity War// and //Avengers: Endgame//, has a vastly simplified origin. * **A Native Titan, Not an Eternal:** MCU Thanos is presented as a native of the planet Titan. While he is exceptionally powerful, he is not explicitly identified as an Eternal or having any connection to the Celestials. His people were simply an advanced alien race. * **Motivation of Malthusian Philosophy:** His entire motivation stems from witnessing the self-inflicted destruction of his homeworld. Titan, in the MCU, was a vibrant planet that died due to overpopulation and resource depletion. Thanos proposed a radical, "random" culling of half the population to save the other half. He was branded a madman and exiled, only to watch his predictions come true as Titan became a barren ruin. This experience forged his crusade: to "save" the universe from the same fate by using the [[infinity_stones|Infinity Stones]] to wipe out half of all life. * **No Mention of Family:** The MCU makes no mention of Mentor, Eros, or Sui-San. Thanos's "family" is redefined as his adopted children, the [[black_order|Black Order]] and, most notably, [[gamora]] and [[nebula]]. His complex psychological trauma rooted in maternal rejection and genetic abnormality is completely replaced by a purely philosophical, if misguided, motivation. The 2021 film //Eternals// further complicated this by introducing a version of the Eternals to the MCU, but one that is fundamentally different from the comics. In the MCU, Eternals are synthetic beings created by the Celestials, unable to procreate. The film does include a mid-credits scene introducing **Eros** ([[eros_starfox|Starfox]]), played by Harry Styles, who is referred to as the "brother of Thanos." This is the only canonical link between Thanos and the Eternals in the MCU. However, the film gives no explanation for how two synthetic beings could be "brothers," nor does it mention their parents. The film also establishes that an Eternal named **A'Lars** served on Earth, but there is no indication he ever traveled to Titan or fathered children. **Analysis of the Omission:** The decision to remove Sui-San and the entire Titanian Eternal backstory was likely made for narrative efficiency. 1. **Streamlining a Complex Villain:** Explaining the Celestials, Eternals, Deviants, the Eternal civil war, Mentor's exile, and Sui-San's history would have required significant exposition, potentially bogging down films focused on the Avengers. 2. **Focusing the Motivation:** By centering Thanos's motivation on a relatable (though horrifically executed) concept like resource scarcity, the MCU made his goal clear and, in a twisted way, understandable to a mass audience without needing a deep dive into comic book lore. 3. **Avoiding Redundancy:** The MCU's version of the Eternals as sterile, synthetic beings makes the story of Mentor and Sui-San breeding a new race on Titan impossible within the established cinematic rules. While this change made Thanos a more focused cinematic villain, it sacrificed the rich, quasi-mythological family tragedy that defined him in the comics. Sui-San's absence removes the deeply personal, psychological horror of his origin, replacing it with a colder, more abstract philosophical drive. ===== Part 3: Abilities, Physiology & Legacy ===== === Earth-616 (Prime Comic Universe) === As an Eternal of the Titanian branch, Sui-San possessed the standard array of abilities granted to her race by the Celestials' genetic tampering. While she was a scientist and scholar, not a warrior, she still possessed a powerful physiology. * **Eternal Physiology:** Sui-San had total conscious control over her own molecular structure, a trait common to all Eternals. This granted her a suite of powers: * **Immortality & Invulnerability:** Like all Eternals, she was functionally immortal, immune to age and conventional disease. Her body was incredibly durable, capable of withstanding great impact forces, extreme temperatures, and powerful energy blasts. While she could be killed through catastrophic injury (i.e., having her molecules dispersed), she was far beyond any conventional human. * **Superhuman Strength & Stamina:** While her limits were never explicitly tested in combat, she possessed strength far exceeding that of a normal human. She could also exert herself for extended periods without tiring. * **Cosmic Energy Manipulation:** Eternals can channel and manipulate cosmic energy for various effects, including projecting bolts of concussive force, heat (similar to optic blasts), and creating force fields. Sui-San was not a trained combatant, but she inherently possessed this potential. * **Psionic Abilities:** She possessed low-level psionic abilities, including limited telepathy. This may have contributed to her premonition of Thanos's evil at his birth. * **Flight:** By psionically levitating herself, she was capable of flight. * **Intellect and Legacy:** * **Genius-Level Intellect:** Sui-San's greatest asset was her mind. She was a brilliant scientist and geneticist, second only perhaps to Mentor on Titan. She was instrumental in operating the advanced technology that created and sustained life on the moon, including the supercomputer ISAAC (Integral Synaptic Anti-Anionic Computer). * **Matriarch of a Civilization:** Her most significant legacy is the civilization she co-founded. The Eternals of Titan, under her and Mentor's guidance, became a peaceful and enlightened society that stood in stark contrast to the violent past of their Uranian ancestors. * **The Mother's Curse:** Tragically, her other major legacy is the creation of Thanos. Her horrified reaction at his birth, while arguably justified, became a self-fulfilling prophecy. It provided the initial trauma that Thanos would use to justify his nihilistic worldview, forever linking the mother who loved peace with the son who worshipped Death. === Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) === As Sui-San does not exist in the MCU, she possesses no abilities or legacy within that continuity. Her roles as matriarch, scientist, and the mother of Thanos are entirely unfulfilled. The MCU's Titan is a dead world with a different history, and its version of Thanos is a product of philosophical despair rather than familial trauma and genetic mutation. Her absence fundamentally changes the nature of Titan, Thanos, and Eros within that universe. ===== Part 4: Key Relationships & Network ===== Sui-San's life was defined by a small but cosmically significant circle of family, whose relationships shaped the fate of the entire universe. ==== Core Allies & Family ==== * **Mentor (A'Lars):** A'Lars was Sui-San's husband, partner, and savior. He found her as the lone survivor of a dead world and gave her a new purpose. Together, they were true equals, combining his scientific knowledge with her resilience to build a utopia from scratch. Their love was the foundation of the new Titan. His grief and guilt following her murder at the hands of their son would drive him to oppose Thanos for the rest of his life, making him a key ally of the Avengers and [[captain_marvel_mar-vell|Captain Mar-Vell]] during the first Infinity sagas. * **Eros (Starfox):** Eros was her firstborn and the son who embodied all her hopes. He inherited his parents' love for life, pleasure, and peace. Sui-San's relationship with Eros was one of pure, uncomplicated love, which stands in stark, tragic contrast to her relationship with Thanos. Eros was devastated by his mother's death and his brother's betrayal, which set him on a path to become a hero, joining the Avengers to fight against the darkness his brother represented. ==== Arch-Enemies ==== * **Thanos:** The relationship between Sui-San and Thanos is one of the most tragic and consequential in the Marvel Universe. It was a bond defined by immediate horror and rejection. From the moment of his birth, Sui-San saw him as a monster, an aberration that would bring only death. This perception, expressed in her attempt to kill him as an infant, became the core wound of his existence. For Thanos, his mother represented the universe's rejection of him. He was an outcast from his first breath. His obsession with her, culminating in her cold, clinical dissection, was his way of "curing" himself of the need for her approval. He sought to understand life by deconstructing its source, a perversion of the scientific principles his parents held dear. By killing his mother, he severed his final tie to any form of love or normalcy, fully embracing the nihilistic philosophy of his future lover, [[mistress_death|Mistress Death]]. ==== Affiliations ==== * **Eternals of Titan:** This was not just an affiliation; it was her family and her creation. Sui-San was the queen and founding mother of the entire race. The society's peaceful, philosophical nature was a direct reflection of her and Mentor's values. Her death was a foundational tragedy for all Titanians, marking the moment their paradise was irrevocably lost to the madness of one of their own. * **Eternals of Earth (Indirect):** Through her husband A'Lars, who was the brother of the Earth-Eternal leader Zuras, Sui-San was connected by marriage to the prime branch of the Eternal race. However, due to A'Lars's exile, direct contact was minimal until the threat of Thanos forced the two branches of the family into a reluctant alliance. ===== Part 5: Iconic Events & Storylines ===== Sui-San's direct appearances in comics are few, but the events she participated in are of monumental importance, primarily detailed in flashbacks that explore the history of Titan and the origin of Thanos. ==== The Founding of Titan ==== This is less a single storyline and more a foundational myth. After the destruction of the Uranian settlement on Titan, Sui-San was left utterly alone amidst the ruins. The arrival of the exiled Earth-Eternal A'Lars was a pivotal turning point. Their story is a cosmic Adam and Eve narrative. Together, they harnessed the vast power of the dormant Kree and Uranian technology, including the ISAAC supercomputer, to build a self-sustaining, subterranean paradise. They then used advanced cloning and genetic engineering to sire an entire new race of Eternals, a people free from the warlike ambitions of their Uranian predecessors. This period represents the height of Sui-San's life, where she transitioned from a victim of war to the co-creator of a utopia. ==== The Birth of Thanos ==== Detailed most vividly in the //Thanos Rising// miniseries, this event is Sui-San's most defining moment. The birth of her second son should have been a joyous occasion. Instead, it was a moment of pure horror. When the child was presented to her, she did not see a baby; she saw an abomination afflicted with the Deviant Syndrome. His purple, scarred skin and deep-set eyes filled her with a terrifying, perhaps prophetic, vision of cosmic annihilation. Screaming that his eyes held "a black infinity," she lunged for a surgical tool, intent on murdering him in the cradle. She was stopped, but her reaction forever severed the maternal bond. This act of rejection is presented as the primary psychological trauma that sets Thanos on his path of darkness, a constant reminder that even his own mother saw him as a monster destined to destroy. ==== The Death of Sui-San ==== This horrific event marks Thanos's point of no return. As a young adult, Thanos had become obsessed with death, both as a concept and as the cosmic entity, Mistress Death. To prove his love for her and to sever his last ties to his old life, he embarked on a campaign of murder. His ultimate target was his own mother. He abducted Sui-San and brought her to his hidden laboratory. There, in an act of supreme coldness, he strapped her to a dissection table. He claimed he wanted to examine her, to see where he came from, to find what part of her had created him. He then vivisected her while she was still alive, meticulously taking his own mother apart piece by piece. This act of matricide was his final initiation rite, transforming him from a troubled outcast into a true cosmic monster, the Mad Titan who would go on to murder trillions. ===== Part 6: Variants and Alternative Versions ===== Due to her status as a historical/flashback character, Sui-San has very few prominent alternate versions in comics or other media. Her primary "variant" is her complete absence in the most widely known adaptation. * **Marvel Cinematic Universe (Earth-199999):** As extensively detailed, the most significant alternate version of Sui-San is no version at all. Her erasure from the MCU timeline is a deliberate creative choice that fundamentally re-writes the history of Titan and the motivations of Thanos. This "variant by omission" is crucial for understanding the differences between the comic and cinematic portrayals of Marvel's cosmic landscape. * **//Silver Surfer// (1998 Animated Series):** In this animated adaptation, Thanos's origin is altered. He is not a mutant Eternal but rather a devotee of Lady Chaos, not Mistress Death. His family history with Mentor, Eros, and Sui-San is not mentioned, streamlining his backstory for the television series in a manner similar to, and perhaps presaging, the later MCU adaptation. * **//Thanos: The Infinity Siblings// (2018 OGN):** In this graphic novel by Jim Starlin, a future version of Thanos from the "end of time" alludes to his past, but the core events of his origin, including his relationship with Sui-San, remain consistent with the Earth-616 canon. The story reinforces the idea that his mother's rejection and murder were foundational events that could not be changed, even by time travel. ===== See Also ===== * [[thanos]] * [[mentor_alars]] * [[eros_starfox]] * [[eternals]] * [[titan]] * [[deviants]] * [[celestials]] * [[thanos_rising]] ===== Notes and Trivia ===== ((Sui-San was created by Mike Friedrich and Jim Starlin and first appeared in a flashback sequence in //Iron Man// #55 (1973).)) ((Her name is likely of Chinese origin, where "Sui" can relate to the Sui Dynasty or mean "year/age," and "San" can mean "three," though no official etymology has been provided by her creators.)) ((The miniseries //Thanos Rising// (2013) by Jason Aaron and Simone Bianchi is considered the definitive, though incredibly grim, account of Sui-San's final years and murder. It firmly established her attempted infanticide as a key motivator for Thanos.)) ((Prior to //Thanos Rising//, some accounts simply stated that Thanos killed his mother during his initial destructive assault on Titan, rather than the more personal and horrific vivisection. The 2013 retcon added a much darker, more psychological layer to the act.)) ((In the original lore, the Deviant Syndrome that afflicted Thanos was extremely rare among Eternals, making his birth a source of fear and shame for the otherwise genetically perfect Titanians.)) ((The supercomputer ISAAC, which Sui-San helped maintain, would eventually be corrupted by Thanos and become a recurring antagonist for the heroes of Titan.))