Show pageOld revisionsBacklinksBack to top This page is read only. You can view the source, but not change it. Ask your administrator if you think this is wrong. ====== John Sublime ====== ===== Part 1: The Dossier: An At-a-Glance Summary ===== * **In one bolded sentence, John Sublime is an ancient, sentient, and malevolent bacterial colony that perceives all complex life, especially mutantkind, as a threat to its planetary dominance and has orchestrated the [[Weapon Plus Program]] to ensure its own survival and supremacy.** * **Key Takeaways:** * **A Unique Form of Life:** Sublime is not a mutant, human, or alien in the traditional sense, but a microscopic hive-mind that has existed since the dawn of life on Earth. It survives and exerts its influence by possessing host bodies, making it an insidious and nearly immortal threat. * **The Architect of Super-Soldiers:** In a major retcon that re-contextualized decades of Marvel history, Sublime was revealed to be the secret director and driving ideological force behind the [[Weapon Plus Program]], the clandestine project responsible for creating super-soldiers like [[Captain America]] (Weapon I), [[Wolverine]] (Weapon X), and [[Fantomex]] (Weapon XIII). His goal was to create living weapons to exterminate the mutant race. * **Anti-Mutant Ideologue:** Sublime's entire existence is defined by a pathological fear and hatred of mutants. He views //Homo superior// as a genetic replacement for //Homo sapiens//, the life-form he has successfully controlled for millennia. To combat them, he founded the fanatical "Third Species" movement, the [[U-Men]], who harvest mutant organs to gain powers, and distributed the sentient drug "Kick" to sow chaos. * **A Purely Comic Book Antagonist:** Despite his profound impact on the X-Men and the wider Marvel Universe, John Sublime has **not appeared, nor has he been referenced, in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)**. His complex, high-concept nature makes him a character rooted deeply in the comic book medium. ===== Part 2: Origin and Evolution ===== ==== Publication History and Creation ==== John Sublime made his first official appearance in the **//New X-Men Annual 2001//**, published in September 2001. He was created by the visionary writer **[[Grant Morrison]]** and artist **Leinil Francis Yu**. However, his influence was felt from the very beginning of Morrison's groundbreaking run on the X-Men title, which began with //New X-Men// #114 (July 2001). Sublime's creation was a cornerstone of Morrison's efforts to revolutionize the X-Men franchise. Moving away from traditional supervillains in colorful costumes, Morrison introduced more cerebral, body-horror, and philosophical threats. Sublime personified this shift, representing a biological and ideological plague rather than a simple megalomaniac. He was conceived as the ultimate "hidden enemy," a force that had been manipulating events from the shadows for generations. His eventual reveal as the director of the Weapon Plus Program in //New X-Men// #143 (2003) was a masterful retcon, elegantly tying together disparate elements of Marvel history—from Captain America's origin to Wolverine's adamantium bonding—into a single, cohesive, anti-mutant conspiracy orchestrated by this ancient bacterial consciousness. ==== In-Universe Origin Story ==== The origin of John Sublime is one of the most unique in the Marvel Universe, spanning billions of years and rooted in the very beginnings of life on Earth. === Earth-616 (Prime Comic Universe) === John Sublime is not an individual; it is the collective name for a sentient bacterial colony that evolved on Earth approximately three billion years ago. As a single-celled organism, Sublime and its kind were the dominant form of life on the planet. When multicellular organisms began to evolve, Sublime perceived them as a threat—a new form of life that would supplant its own. In a desperate act of survival, the Sublime bacteria learned to infect and possess these more complex life forms, effectively turning them into hosts. For eons, Sublime existed this way, a silent parasite riding the evolutionary wave, ensuring its own survival by living within the dominant species of any given era. When //Homo sapiens// emerged, Sublime infected them, subtly influencing their development and solidifying its control over the planet's premier life form. However, the emergence of //Homo superior//, or mutants, represented the greatest existential threat Sublime had ever faced. Mutants were not just a new species; they were a genetic replacement for humanity, and their unique biology and powerful X-Gene made them resistant, and even hostile, to Sublime's infection. Fearing its own extinction, Sublime declared a one-sided war on mutantkind. It infiltrated human society at every level, stoking the flames of fear and prejudice against mutants. Its masterstroke was the creation of the **[[Weapon Plus Program]]** in the 1940s. Posing as various influential humans, Sublime directed this black-ops project with a singular, secret goal: to develop living weapons capable of committing mutant genocide. Each "Weapon" was a step towards this goal: * **Weapon I:** [[Captain America|Project: Rebirth]] was co-opted to create the perfect human soldier, a symbol to rally humanity against any perceived threat. * **Weapon X:** The program that bonded adamantium to [[Wolverine]]'s skeleton was part of a larger effort to create the perfect mutant-killing machine. * **Weapon XIII:** [[Fantomex]] was created in "The World," a pocket reality where time could be manipulated to accelerate evolution, designed to be another ultimate anti-mutant weapon. In the modern era, Sublime took a more direct approach. Adopting the public persona of a charismatic author and scientist named John Sublime, he founded the **[[U-Men]]**. This cult-like group of humans surgically grafted mutant body parts onto themselves in a twisted attempt to become a "Third Species," superior to both humans and mutants. They were Sublime's fanatical foot soldiers in his war. Simultaneously, Sublime began distributing an aerosol version of itself as a street drug called "Kick," which granted users enhanced powers but also made them susceptible to its direct mental influence, as seen during the "Riot at Xavier's" storyline. === Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) === John Sublime **does not exist** in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). The character, his bacterial nature, and his specific role as the head of the Weapon Plus Program are all concepts exclusive to the Earth-616 comics continuity. While the MCU has featured elements that touch upon similar themes, such as the Super Soldier Serum (creating Captain America) and clandestine organizations like [[HYDRA]] and [[S.H.I.E.L.D.]], the overarching conspiracy orchestrated by a sentient bacteria has not been adapted. The Weapon X program was briefly alluded to in //X-Men: Apocalypse// (part of the 20th Century Fox timeline, not the prime MCU), but its origins were not tied to a figure like Sublime. **//Speculative Analysis://** If John Sublime were to be introduced into the MCU, he would likely be adapted in a significantly different way. The high-concept idea of a billions-of-years-old sentient bacteria might be grounded into something more tangible, such as: * A sentient A.I. or digital consciousness that infects technology and biology alike. * The creator of a sophisticated biological weapon or virus that gains sentience. * A human mastermind (like [[Arnim Zola]]) who has found a way to transfer his consciousness into a bacterial or nanite form to achieve immortality. Such an adaptation could serve as a powerful "big bad" for a future X-Men or Captain America project, retroactively revealing a hidden hand behind many of the MCU's super-soldier and genetic engineering projects. However, as of now, this remains pure speculation. ===== Part 3: Abilities, Manifestations & Ideology ===== Sublime's nature as a sentient bacterial colony grants it a set of powers and methods of operation that are vastly different from most other Marvel villains. === Earth-616 (Prime Comic Universe) === ==== Powers and Abilities ==== * **Possession:** Sublime's primary ability is to infect and take control of a host body. While it can possess virtually any non-mutant life form, it prefers human hosts for their intelligence and influence. The possession is total, giving Sublime access to the host's memories and skills while suppressing their original consciousness. * **Immortality:** The individual hosts are mortal, but the Sublime colony is functionally immortal. If a host body is destroyed, the bacteria can be released into the atmosphere to infect a new one, ensuring its continued existence. It has survived for billions of years using this method. * **Hive Mind:** Every particle of Sublime is connected in a vast, planet-spanning consciousness. This allows it to coordinate its actions across multiple hosts and locations simultaneously. It can also exist as an aerosol or in liquid form, making it incredibly difficult to contain or destroy. * **Genetic Manipulation:** Over millennia, Sublime has developed a sophisticated understanding of genetics. This allowed it to mastermind the Weapon Plus Program's advanced genetic engineering. It also created the "Crawlers," genetically engineered assassins used by Weapon Plus. * **Subtle Influence:** Even when not in full control of a host, Sublime can subtly influence their thoughts and actions, amplifying feelings of fear, paranoia, and hatred, particularly towards mutants. The drug "Kick" was a prime example of this, heightening a user's aggression and making them susceptible to Sublime's will. * **Resistance to Damage:** A host body possessed by Sublime often exhibits enhanced durability and a suppressed sense of pain, as the colony's primary concern is its own survival, not the vessel's well-being. ==== Weaknesses ==== Sublime's greatest weakness is mutant physiology. The X-Gene makes mutants highly resistant or completely immune to its infection. This is the biological root of its existential fear. Additionally, the Phoenix Force, being a cosmic entity of life and psionic energy, is capable of purging Sublime's presence from a host or even an entire environment, as [[Jean Grey]] demonstrated. ==== Manifestations ==== John Sublime has operated through several key guises and organizations: * **John Sublime (Public Persona):** The charismatic author and leader of the U-Men. This was his most visible form, allowing him to spread his anti-mutant ideology publicly and recruit followers. * **Director of Weapon Plus:** In the shadows, Sublime has possessed a succession of human directors to oversee the program's operations for over 60 years. He is the true mind behind all of its projects. * **The Beast:** In the dark future timeline of "Here Comes Tomorrow," Sublime's ultimate victory was achieving what it never could before: possessing a mutant. It infected an aging, grief-stricken [[Beast (Hank McCoy)|Hank McCoy]], corrupting him and turning him into its most powerful and intelligent host. * **Kick:** The aerosol drug form, which allowed Sublime to be inhaled, directly infecting the user's brain and nervous system. ==== Ideology ==== Sublime's philosophy is rooted in a primal, biological imperative. It does not seek wealth or power in the human sense. It seeks only survival and dominance for its species: bacteria. * **Primacy of the First Born:** Sublime believes that as the first life on Earth, it is the planet's rightful heir. It views all other life forms as temporary, inferior "meat puppets" or, in the case of mutants, a disease to be eradicated. * **Fear of Replacement:** Its entire war against mutants is driven by terror. It correctly identifies mutants as the next stage of evolution, a species that will replace humanity and, in doing so, create a world where Sublime can no longer thrive or survive. * **Control through Corruption:** Sublime's primary tactic is to corrupt from within. It manipulates human fear, weaponizes science for genocide, and turns people against each other. It rarely engages in direct conflict, preferring to act as the hidden puppet master. === Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) === As John Sublime is not present in the MCU, there are no abilities, manifestations, or ideological tenets to analyze within this continuity. ===== Part 4: Key Relationships & Network ===== ==== Creations & Pawns ==== Sublime does not have "allies" in the traditional sense; it has tools, creations, and pawns it manipulates to achieve its goals. * **The [[U-Men]]:** The U-Men were a fanatical transhumanist cult founded and led by Sublime. They viewed him as a prophet for the "Third Species"—baseline humans who could achieve superhuman abilities by surgically grafting mutant organs and limbs onto their own bodies. They served as Sublime's public-facing terrorist group, hunting down mutants to harvest their parts and spreading his message of human supremacy. They were utterly devoted and entirely disposable. * **The [[Weapon Plus Program]]:** Sublime's most significant and far-reaching creation. He was the secret, continuous director of the program from its inception. Scientists like Dr. Abraham Cornelius (of Weapon X) and the staff of "The World" were all, knowingly or not, working towards Sublime's ultimate goal of mutant extermination. The super-soldiers created by the program, from Captain America to Wolverine, were all intended to be instruments in this war. * **Martha Johansson:** A powerful mutant telepath reduced to a disembodied brain in a jar by the U-Men. Sublime initially used her as a psychic weapon to control others and contain his enemies. However, she was eventually freed by the X-Men and became a student at the Xavier Institute, turning one of Sublime's weapons against him. ==== Arch-Enemies ==== * **The [[X-Men]]:** As the embodiment of mutant potential and the primary defenders of their species, the X-Men are Sublime's natural and most persistent enemies. They have foiled its plans on numerous occasions, dismantling the U-Men, exposing its control over Weapon Plus, and fighting its influence across the globe. * **[[Jean Grey|Jean Grey (Phoenix)]]:** Jean Grey represents a particular threat to Sublime due to her connection to the Phoenix Force. As the Phoenix, she was able to psionically perceive Sublime's true bacterial nature when others could not. She ultimately defeated Sublime during its assault on a [[mutant]] community in Hong Kong by using the Phoenix's power to "burn away the rot," effectively purging its influence and forcing it into retreat. * **[[Emma Frost]]:** The former White Queen of the Hellfire Club and co-headmistress of the Xavier Institute was one of Sublime's earliest and most personal targets. Sublime personally led the U-Men in an attack to harvest her diamond-form body. Emma's resilience, power, and unwavering defense of her students make her a key adversary. It was her student, Quentin Quire, who fell under the influence of Sublime's "Kick," leading directly to the "Riot at Xavier's." * **[[Fantomex]]:** As Weapon XIII, Fantomex is a direct product of Sublime's Weapon Plus Program. However, he rebelled against his creators and became a staunch, if unpredictable, ally of the X-Men. He possesses an intimate knowledge of Sublime's methods and technology (like "The World") and actively works to undermine his creator's legacy. ==== Affiliations ==== * **[[Weapon Plus Program]] (Director):** Sublime is not just affiliated with Weapon Plus; it **is** Weapon Plus. It is the program's guiding consciousness and ultimate authority. * **[[U-Men]] (Founder and Leader):** Sublime created the U-Men's entire ideology and directed their actions from behind the scenes, using his human host as their public figurehead. ===== Part 5: Iconic Events & Storylines ===== John Sublime was the central antagonist, either directly or indirectly, for the entirety of Grant Morrison's tenure on //New X-Men//. ==== E is for Extinction (New X-Men #114-116) ==== While not the visible antagonist, Sublime's influence is palpable. The story introduces the U-Men, Sublime's mutant-harvesting foot soldiers, establishing the new, visceral threat the X-Men face. This arc sets the tone for Morrison's run, highlighting themes of evolution, transhumanism, and body horror that are central to Sublime's character. It lays the groundwork for his later reveal by introducing the horrifying real-world consequences of his ideology. ==== Riot at Xavier's (New X-Men #135-138) ==== This storyline reveals one of Sublime's most insidious weapons: the drug Kick. The omega-level mutant [[Quentin Quire]], disillusioned with Xavier's dream, becomes addicted to Kick, which amplifies his powers and aggression. It's later revealed that Kick is John Sublime in aerosol form, a sentient bacteria that infects the user. Quire's Sublime-fueled rage leads to a full-scale riot at the Xavier Institute, nearly destroying the school from within. This event showcased Sublime's ability to corrupt mutants and turn them against each other, proving his war was not just physical but ideological and biological. ==== Weapon Plus (New X-Men #142-145) ==== This is the character's defining storyline. Through investigations by Cyclops and Fantomex, the full truth is revealed: John Sublime is the director of the Weapon Plus Program. The story explicitly connects the dots between Captain America (Weapon I), Wolverine (Weapon X), Fantomex (Weapon XIII), and numerous other secret projects, reframing them all as parts of Sublime's centuries-long plot to create the perfect mutant-killing weapons. This arc elevated Sublime from a bizarre X-Men villain to a major threat who had secretly shaped the history of the entire Marvel Universe. ==== Here Comes Tomorrow (New X-Men #151-154) ==== Set 150 years in a dystopian future, this storyline shows the ultimate outcome of Sublime's war. In this timeline (Earth-15104), Sublime achieved its greatest victory by successfully possessing the mutant Beast, who, in his grief over the death of [[Jean Grey]], became vulnerable. As the new, intelligent, and utterly malevolent "Beast," Sublime has brought humanity and mutantkind to the brink of extinction. The world is a desolate ruin ruled by his genetically-engineered monsters. A resurrected Jean Grey, as the White Phoenix of the Crown, travels back in time to prevent this future from ever happening by encouraging Cyclops to pursue a relationship with Emma Frost, proving that even a cosmic-level threat like Sublime could be defeated by an act of love and hope. ===== Part 6: Variants and Alternative Versions ===== Due to his unique nature, John Sublime has very few traditional alternate-reality counterparts. His most significant variant is the one who succeeded. ==== Earth-15104 ("Here Comes Tomorrow" timeline) ==== This is the most terrifying version of John Sublime. In this reality, Sublime's plan worked perfectly. After infecting and taking control of Hank McCoy, he gained access to a brilliant mutant mind, something he could never achieve before. This "Sublime-Beast" became the ultimate villain. He systematically destroyed the X-Men, enslaved humanity, and nearly eradicated all life on Earth, attempting to use the power of the Phoenix (now hosted in an egg) to gain total control over creation itself. This version showcases the true apocalyptic potential of Sublime's intelligence and malice when combined with the power of a mutant host. He was only defeated when Jean Grey reset the timeline, erasing this version from existence. ==== Other Media ==== John Sublime is a character deeply tied to the specific, high-concept storytelling of Grant Morrison's comic book run. As such, he has had virtually no presence in other media. * **Video Games:** He has not appeared as a character in any major Marvel video games. * **Animation:** He has not been adapted for any of the X-Men animated series, which have typically favored more traditional villains like [[Magneto]] and [[Apocalypse]]. His absence in wider media underscores his status as a more complex, "deep-cut" villain for dedicated comic book readers. ===== See Also ===== * [[Weapon Plus Program]] * [[U-Men]] * [[X-Men]] * [[Fantomex]] * [[Grant Morrison]] * [[Beast (Hank McCoy)]] * [[Quentin Quire]] ===== Notes and Trivia ===== ((John Sublime's name is a deliberate choice by Grant Morrison, reflecting his villainous nature. "Sublime" can mean lofty or grand, but it also relates to the chemical process of sublimation—changing from a solid to a gas without passing through a liquid state, mirroring how the aerosol "Kick" version of Sublime bypasses normal infection vectors to go straight to the brain.)) ((The concept of a sentient bacterial colony is a classic trope in science fiction, but Morrison updated it by tying it directly to the core themes of the X-Men: evolution, prejudice, and the fear of being replaced.)) ((For a time, there was a retcon suggesting that the entity known as Sublime was actually a sliver of the being known as Arkea, a sentient bacterium and sister to the techno-organic entity John Sublime. However, this has been largely ignored by subsequent writers, and the original Grant Morrison origin remains the most widely accepted version of the character's history.)) ((The reveal that Sublime was the head of Weapon Plus is considered one of the most successful and impactful retcons in modern comics, as it didn't contradict previous stories but instead added a terrifying new layer of context and a unified purpose to decades of disparate lore.)) ((First Appearance: //New X-Men Annual 2001//. Creators: Grant Morrison, Leinil Francis Yu.)) ((In the //Here Comes Tomorrow// storyline, Sublime's genetically engineered foot-soldiers were called "Crawlers." They were created by splicing the DNA of Nightcrawler and the Multiple Man, resulting in armies of teleporting, replicating assassins.)) ((The U-Men's catchphrase, "We have come for your children," is a direct and chilling inversion of the X-Men's role as protectors of young mutants.))